… a little recent repartee from Quora:
Is socialism when the government does stuff?
BA from Union Institute & University
Answered Feb 24
“Government itself is socialism. It does not rely upon market forces, but coercive force in order to secure its financing. It then imposes (not provides) “services” (many of which would never survive in a marketplace where people were 100% free to choose what they wish or don’t wish to purchase, how much, how little, or what particular kind) in a monopolistic fashion — allowing no competition, no option of refusal, and does not need to provide “customer service” except in the most fraudulent and superficial way. These things are all the essence of socialism. And it is nothing short of pure, inexcusable evil of the darkest form imaginable. Be damned the hollow protestations of the left-wing apologists feigning intellect.”
“As I consent to be governed, as long as I can participate in the process, I am not coerced by the government. As approve of efficient government services, these are not imposed upon me. And I willingly pay taxes to hold up my side of the social contract which makes civilized life possible.
“Libertarianism is inviting the “war of all against all,” as Hobbes noted. And that is, indeed, pure, inexcusable evil.”
“Incredible the kind of mental gymnastics you had to perform in order to 100% reverse the truth: 1.) There IS NO “social contract.” It exists wholly as a product of collectivist imagination. 2.) You somehow imagine that your self-proclaimed consent a.) eliminates the coercion that exists, regardless, and; b.) makes it perfectly okay to impose on anyone who disagrees with you. 3.) You imagine life is “civilized” in the presence of such involuntary coercion. 4.) You proclaim libertarianism a philosophy of aggression, rather than your own statist ideology.”
And you wonder why you leftists are regarded as toxic lunatics.